Welcome to these Hubbard pages. They're a somewhat disorganised collection of photographs and stories I've published since this website started life in 1998. They've all Grown like Topsy, growing without supervision or prior planning.

That planning has now arrived in the form of hubbardplus.co.uk - my sister Judith's website. She is actively researching our Hubbard family history.

I do not intend to change these pages, as there are so many other websites linking back. Please visit hubbardplus.co.uk

Nick, January 2013

Penelope Forrest's emails

I'm keeping copies of emails sent to me from my distant cousin, Penelope Forrest.
 paf <at symbol> zarf <dot symbol> com

June 2005
Dear  Nick,

Since my mother died in August last year, I've done a lot of sorting through and transcribing of old letters which came to light. One in particular, I thought might be of interest to you:

Letter from Harriet Crompton, born Phelps, to her mother-in-law, Alice Crompton. Transcribed from the original in May 2005 by Penelope Forrest, born Phelps, great granddaughter of Harriet and John Crompton.

Sta Cruz, Madeira 29th Nov 1854.

My dear Mrs Crompton

You expressed a wish to hear some particulars of our wedding so I am going to do my best to give you an idea of it. It took place last Saturday the 25th under very favourable circumstances, for it was delicious bright weather & we had few disappointments in the guests we had invited. It was rather a fatiguing day for we had to be at the Consulate for the civil contract, at 9. Mr Stoddart was very polite though unused to the way we took to get married. Papa, Mamma, Mary, Mrs Bayman & Willie went there with us. Then we went home & dressed in our best to go to Church where the service began at past 10 o'clock.

There were 12 bridesmaids & 12 bridesmen who went in box carts of which there were eleven in the procession. The young ladies looked very nice and were dressed in white muslin with pink & blue caps & ribbons. They consisted of the 3 Forbes, Ellen Hayward, Augusta Sheffield, 2 Taylors, Bella, Mary & Clara & the 2 Miss D'Arcys. The Church was prettily decorated & we stayed to receive the H. Communion after the marriage service which a great many people had gone to Church to witness. We then went straight from the Church door to the Sta Clara convent to see the nun who was very much delighted. Then home to breakfast to which people had been invited for to 1. There were 60 people, I believe, present & they seemed very happy & drank toasts to our health & were very uproarious altogether. The breakfast table looked very well & the cake was large & tastefully iced by Payne & surmounted by white Camellias - also bouquets of white flowers were placed at intervals on the table. We started for this place at about 3 & got here by dark rather tired with the fatigue & excitement we had gone through.

I have written to ask for a list of the company to send you. This place is very enjoyable & bracing, much more so than Funchal. Mr Grant having kindly allowed us the use of his house we intend to stay till about the 23rd of Dec. that we may get home by Christmas.

I hope to hear soon that your eyes are better. How are you enjoying yourself? I am afraid you must miss the society of your son but I will try & make him as happy as I can. We like the rides here very much. The 2 horses seem delighted to get together again. Mr Darcy is getting on better now he has his wife & children with him. The 3 children are very nice. They still live at the Quinta das Bosas. We asked Miss Wilson to the breakfast but she could not come but she looks very well. Miss Meares came to the Church but not to the breakfast as she did not feel strong enough. I hope that this description will not weary you. I had some very pretty presents given me, among others a diamond ring & some money to buy a watch. Also 6 worked chairs & a table cover. More than 40 altogether, of different values. There are not many people here this season - I suppose the Quarantine has frightened them away. Nobody new comes to Church I believe. We are getting up the subject of Natal but it seems a very great undertaking.

Goodbye now dear Mrs Crompton & believe me your affectionate daughter

Harriet Crompton

It is interesting to see what a palaver there was for protestants to marry in Madeira at the time.

Best wishes,

August 2003
Dear Nick,

You're welcome to add any mails I send, to your published information on the family.

I'm so glad you're taking the trouble to collect and collate so much before the people with the memories are all gone.  My mother was a great fund of family lore but at 90 years old she has pretty much lost her mind now.  Dad at 93 is more reliable on the old days but as he left the UK at 17 to "farm in Africa" he had less contact with the family and didn't know much of the history.

Best wishes,
Penelope Forrest
Pietermaritzburg, KwaZuluNatal, South Africa.

Dear Nick,

Thanks for your mail and further work on the Phelpses in Madeira.

I was interested to see that your Aunt knew very little about Arthur, Aunt Janey's brother and the sibling nearest to her in age.  It's not very surprising as he was also a pretty colourful character but, in contrast to Jane's high church adherence, Arthur was a Unitarian.  He was also president of the National Anti-Vaccination League and one of his eccentricities was to have his socks knitted with individual toe compartments like gloves ("digitated").

Arthur married Caroline Anne Peyton, his second cousin, in 1868 and they had four children - Malet Peyton, Murray Newton, Elsie Lora and George Ingram de Brissac.  Malet was born in Aden in 1869 as Arthur was stationed there.  Arthur was Governor of Aden  (though possibly not till later) and became a General.  I am not sure if this was in the regular British Army; on the memorial sheet at his funeral he is described as "Lieutenant General Bombay Army."  Arthur died in 1920 and the officiant at his funeral was the Rev Joseph Wood, formerly minister of the Old Meeting Church, Birmingham.   The service was held at the Crematorium.

Joseph Wood also officiated at the marriage of Malet to Dorothy Smith, daughter of Sir James Smith, a Birmingham businessman and lord mayor.  One of the witnesses to the marriage (at the Old Meeting Church, Bristol Street, Birmingham in 1907) was Oliver Lodge.   Malet went in to the army and retired as a Colonel.  (Malet and Dorothy were my father's parents.)

I have printed out chapter 14 of Victorian Hangover and read it with great interest.

Best wishes,

Dear Nick,

I have just been looking at your Aunt Frances' trip to Madiera in 1954 and would love to know who she actually was.  (I take it she is no longer alive?)

I am descended from two of "Aunt Janey's" siblings, Harriet and Arthur, as my parents are second cousins, and I have also heard many stories about Aunt Janey and her orphanage.  My parents were travelling to England (from South Africa) by boat in 1959 and by chance were able to spend some time on Madeira as the boat developed engine trouble.  They also found Largo do Phelps and photographed each other under the signpost.

I have a fairly comprehensive family tree of all the descendants of Joseph and Elizabeth Phelps, but can't find any mention of Hubbard or Roper and can't work out where your aunt fits in. 

Please would you let me know.   If you are at all interested in any Phelps family tree information, I'd be happy to share what I have.

With good wishes,
Penelope Forrest (born Phelps)

Dear Judith,

...My mother, now 90, used to talk of Aunt Janey and the orphanage but I don't think she ever met her and had no first-hand knowledge of it as your Aunt did!

I'm attaching three files which you may find interesting:

I'd be tremendously grateful if you were able to send me names and dates for the six children of Anne Dickinson and Arthur Benoni Evans and then the Hubbard line which has been pencilled in on the Pedigree of Evans in "Time and Chance".  I simply can't read them, though I'll go back to the site later and try harder!

Best wishes,